[J-Gon]

Me personally, Prequel EU is the real deal and anything older that is gonna be crap. I like most of the newer EU but I think Lucas fell asleep at the wheel during the time between ROTJ and TPM!

In the newer EU you get stuff like Aayla Secura, Quinlan Voss, Clone Commanders like Alpha and Bly and stuff that makes sense and adds to the overall big picture

but in the older EU you've got this guy flying around in an X-wing

I rest my case.

[blazer8100]

I like alot of the characters and some of the things, but most of it is just plain silly

[racer223]

yea alot of it is quite stupid
like the horse piloting the xwing

[SentinelPrime]

Movies only as far as canon.

[hamsterboy]

Yes and no. It all depends on what you are talking about when it comes to EU.

[J-Gon]

the whole sha-bang. Comics, books, vidoe games, RPG. All of it. I guess it's a character you like then yeah EU is cannon. If it'something you don't care about then it's crap.

[Draven79]

I LOVE EU and would not love SW anywhere near as much if it was not for that. Some of my fav characters came from there. Mara Jade(top 3 fav), Quin Lon, Aayla, Jacen and Jaina. I read it all from the books and comics. Just dig it.
Draven

[Lord Amron]

Daredrummer, on Jul 30 2005, 08:47 PM, said:

Movies only as far as canon.

I think at one time you could say that. But look at the Clone Wars, it was strictly books, games, comics, and cartoons and it FITS right between AOTC and ROTS. Lucas intended it to be that way. Aalya Secura came from the comics so if only movies are canon who was the blue skinned Twilek? Face it with better coordination between all genres EU has become respectable and viable. If you still go by the outdated thought that only films matter you're missing out on a big chunk of prequel history. It's kinda like saying everything that happens outside my door that I don't see doesn't happen.

[Snout Spout]

It depends on your need for additional explanations.

[Anakin Skywalker]

I'm going with Y & N too!

When Vader fought against the "spirit" of Darth Maul and won that was cool! But when the Darth Maul cyborg robot thing lands on Tatooine to find Vader's son and Obi-Wan, that was rediculous. I'm still not sure if that actually took place or if it was just a "what if".

The back strory for Jango meeting Tyranus (Open Season) was good and well played out.

Really enjoyed Clone Wars in all it's form.

But I pray that Mace Windu is gone forever. I just don't see the point of him returning, except MAYBE in spirit form. It's kind of the same as Maul. He's dead, and there's no good way to bring him back to life.

As far as Classic Trilogy and post-Jedi EU, I enjoyed Shadows of the Empire a lot. Mostly because it linked two of my favoite movies. And Mara Jade and Kyle Katarn were two of favorite chracters for a while.

The Boba Fett thing makes sense to me though. He wasn't leathally wounded, no limbs were lost, and he wore armor that was equipped with enough fire power to handle most situtations. Boba Fett is kind like the Terminator (1st), he just keeps coming no matter how many times you think he's dead. But if they keep playing out that genre with Maul or, Heavn forbid, Dooku then it gets dumb.

[GaZ]

You are aware that a cannon is a very large projectile launcher aren't you?

If you mean is EU stuff part of the same continuity, then it all depends what it is. Are fanfics classed as EU? If so then obviously not ALL EU is "cannon". And I would guess some of the other stuff isn't, say for instance te Ewoks cartoon. Has that any bearing on the movies? I doubt it.

If I have grossly misunderstood this cannon word, please correct me. I'm guessing it's an abbreviation, otherwise it makes absolutely no sense.

[Don of the Dead]

Maul=Dead
Fett=Dead
Emperor Palpatine=Dead
Chewie=Alive

EU=Non Canon
Movies=Canon

[Don of the Dead]

Once agian the Uslessness of Boba Fett:

Movies:
He didn't capture Han. he simply followed him.
He let the EMPIRE capture Han and the got him gift wrapped in Carbonite to deliver to Jabba.
He died screaming like a b!tch knocked into the Sarlacc by a blind guy with a stick.

EU: Fett is saved by Dengar, a guy with a crushed skull and a diaper on his head.

He's better off dead.

[Lord Amron]

Don of the Dead, on Jul 31 2005, 12:54 PM, said:

Maul=Dead
Fett=Dead
Emperor Palpatine=Dead
Chewie=Alive

EU=Non Canon
Movies=Canon

So to youi the CW cartoon is non-canon??? Lucas specificaly stated it was. The CW books?? Happened to (Lucas approved that as well). Basically anything Lucas approves HAPPENS in the SW universe it is up to fans to determine what they want to accept or not (i.e. the above mentioned Visionaries story that had Maul return...I disregard....Open Seasons happened). Again if EU "didn't happen" who was the blue skinned Twilek??

[JoeRhyno]

Lord Amron, on Jul 31 2005, 08:30 AM, said:

Daredrummer, on Jul 30 2005, 08:47 PM, said:

Movies only as far as canon.

I think at one time you could say that. But look at the Clone Wars, it was strictly books, games, comics, and cartoons and it FITS right between AOTC and ROTS. Lucas intended it to be that way. Aalya Secura came from the comics so if only movies are canon who was the blue skinned Twilek? Face it with better coordination between all genres EU has become respectable and viable. If you still go by the outdated thought that only films matter you're missing out on a big chunk of prequel history. It's kinda like saying everything that happens outside my door that I don't see doesn't happen.

Well said!

Quote

In the context of fiction, the canon of a fictional universe comprises those novels, stories, films, etc. that are considered to be genuine, and those events, characters, settings, etc. that are considered to have inarguable existence within the fictional universe. Usually items that are considered canon come from the original source of the fictional universe while non-canon material comes from adaptations or unofficial items. Generally, Expanded Universes are not considered canon, though there are exceptions which are considered near-canon

Actually some of you "I only watch the movie" fans have to understand that a lot of the new-er books that have to do with the prequels are considered canon, like the clone wars cartoon, books & comics, and some of the other prequel novels... so in their own right, they are not EU... they are part of the SW universe, they were made to fill in a lot of the stuff that would have been inpossible to fit in the movies...

yeah, the Thrawn trilogy and New Jedi Order, a lot of the Star Wars Tales comis, are in fact... EU.. so, by definition.. they are not canon... but, it doesn't meant we as fans cant enjoy them and like them and want to believe them...
by the way, it's canon not cannon just to make sure you dont "confuse" people like GaZ

[J-Gon]

JoeRhyno, on Jul 31 2005, 02:25 PM, said:

by the way, it's canon not cannon just to make sure you dont "confuse" people like GaZ

yeah sorry about the typo.

[GaZ]

Jaster, on Jul 31 2005, 09:26 PM, said:

JoeRhyno, on Jul 31 2005, 02:25 PM, said:

by the way, it's canon not cannon just to make sure you dont "confuse" people like GaZ

yeah sorry about the typo.

I still wanna know where the word comes from!

[DOOP]

I love the PT EU, and even a lot of the Tales comics fit great. Before Lucas approved them and the PT rules were established, the stories were "weaker" so to speak. I still enjoy Thrawn and what not, but I really don't care for the New Jedi Order.

As far as I'm concered, canon.

Also, I really enjoyed the Visionaries story! If you ignore the unliklyhood of Maul surviving, the story itself is great! The rest of Visionaries still fits, logic wise, well enough. Who knows what it actually is.

[Darren]

If it wasn't for the Expanded Universe,I think Star Wars would've gotten pretty boring a long while ago.You can only play ball around the same court for so long before you've been around every inch of it.

But that's just my opinion.

[GaZ]

Yeah, unless George decides to do a 7 8 and 9, the series will have to survive through nostalgia, and/or low budget TV series'.

Thats the beauty of my main love, Transformers. The toys came first, and the cartoon was like an elaborate advert (or "commercial" to you lot), so they can just keep making new toys and make new programmes to go alongside them

[synch]

As stated before I take what I like from each & Ignore the rest

[hamsterboy]

Just a little something for everyone to think about;if it wasn't for EU,you might not have seen double-bladed lightsabers in the PT.

[The Perennial]

Anakin Skywalker, on Jul 31 2005, 12:09 PM, said:

The Boba Fett thing makes sense to me though. He wasn't leathally wounded, no limbs were lost, and he wore armor that was equipped with enough fire power to handle most situtations. Boba Fett is kind like the Terminator (1st), he just keeps coming no matter how many times you think he's dead. But if they keep playing out that genre with Maul or, Heavn forbid, Dooku then it gets dumb.

You should also take into consideration what he was wearing. Not only is the plating of the actual mandalorian armour strong, but the material of his jumpsuit is made of fire ##$%$#ant and blast-dampening materials.

[Draven79]

JoeRhyno, on Jul 31 2005, 06:25 PM, said:

Lord Amron, on Jul 31 2005, 08:30 AM, said:

Daredrummer, on Jul 30 2005, 08:47 PM, said:

Movies only as far as canon.

I think at one time you could say that. But look at the Clone Wars, it was strictly books, games, comics, and cartoons and it FITS right between AOTC and ROTS. Lucas intended it to be that way. Aalya Secura came from the comics so if only movies are canon who was the blue skinned Twilek? Face it with better coordination between all genres EU has become respectable and viable. If you still go by the outdated thought that only films matter you're missing out on a big chunk of prequel history. It's kinda like saying everything that happens outside my door that I don't see doesn't happen.

Well said!

Quote

In the context of fiction, the canon of a fictional universe comprises those novels, stories, films, etc. that are considered to be genuine, and those events, characters, settings, etc. that are considered to have inarguable existence within the fictional universe. Usually items that are considered canon come from the original source of the fictional universe while non-canon material comes from adaptations or unofficial items. Generally, Expanded Universes are not considered canon, though there are exceptions which are considered near-canon

Actually some of you "I only watch the movie" fans have to understand that a lot of the new-er books that have to do with the prequels are considered canon, like the clone wars cartoon, books & comics, and some of the other prequel novels... so in their own right, they are not EU... they are part of the SW universe, they were made to fill in a lot of the stuff that would have been inpossible to fit in the movies...

yeah, the Thrawn trilogy and New Jedi Order, a lot of the Star Wars Tales comis, are in fact... EU.. so, by definition.. they are not canon... but, it doesn't meant we as fans cant enjoy them and like them and want to believe them...
by the way, it's canon not cannon just to make sure you dont "confuse" people like GaZ

Rock on guys! I am so agreeing with you both!
Draven

[Xinos]

I like almost all of the EU, and take most of it as cannon. However the one thing I don't accept, is the Yuuzhon Vong. Worst story ever, they are just silly and to overpowered. Which is why currently in my Star Wars roleplaying game I'm runnin, we are re-writing that era to make more sense, thus No useless Yuuzhon Vong.